The dumbest moments in New Media history

[ApotheosisAZ]

After last year's debacle "trust me just because" just isn't good enough for me.

Jenni's word is certainly good enough for me.

[Mathieas]

After last year's debacle "trust me just because" just isn't good enough for me.

Jenni's word is certainly good enough for me.

I wouldn't say the Streamy Awards were a debacle, there were a lot of good things that happened. Perhaps my problem is that I have a too narrow definition of what is a web series. I don't consider 'tie-in' shows like BSG: Faces of the Enemy or those Hero 'shows' web series so much as I think they are commercials with a narrative. I use the primary purpose and effect test... What is the primary purpose and desired effect of a show? In the case of tie-ins it is to drum up viewers for the main show or to keep the audience entertained during a hiatus or to sell phones or beds, etc, its primary purpose is not to entertain and the desired effect is not entertainment. This is not to say they are not entertaining, commercials can be entertaining, there are a few commercials that I really enjoy watching, like the ones for those new Rebok shoes.... them are some good commercials.

[milowent]

still not sure why the streamys were a debacle again? i was opposed to the whole idea at first as ludicrous (that "international" academy thing had me howling at its bravado), but came to see it had some benefits.

[bradybd]

I've been reading AnchorCove for a long time.

The dialogue here about the Streamy Awards is both insightful and incredibly valuable. We are working hard to improve upon last year's show in 2010. As you will see in a few weeks, we have addressed a number of issues regarding the award categories. One of the most important is the difference between content that is derivative of established intellectual property in another medium and content produced originally for the web.

We know the show will never be perfect (what is?), but we're working hard to improve year after year. The tough thing about an event that takes place annually is that there's a twelve month cycle of innovation. Every idea and improvement we come up with has to wait another 12 months before we can implement it. That makes for seemingly slow reaction time.

That being said, the dialogue taking place here on AnchorCove is incredibly helpful — and trust me, we're listening.

Now back to the regular programming.

Brady

[modelmotion]

:):)

[Venus Spa]

still not sure why the streamys were a debacle again? i was opposed to the whole idea at first as ludicrous (that "international" academy thing had me howling at its bravado), but came to see it had some benefits.

Well spending their entire budget on celebritiy presenters instead of hiring a competant tech crew sealed the show's fate in terms of a quality webcast. From there all it ended up being was a celeb sausage party with almost all of the indies getting shafted hard. The Academy tried WAY too hard to suck up to the stars and failed miserably.

Note to the Academy since you supposedly are listening:

Stop handing awards to celebs who act like they had to be paid to be there in the first place in an effort to gain credibility, that failed in 2009. If you want your show to matter, give your awards to people who will MAKE them matter.

[modelmotion]

The locking of LGPedia pages was a major blunder.

This was perceived as an attempt at a corporate take over of a thriving wiki by Eqal, Inc. It drove away many in the community who had previously been active LGPedia editors.

This was followed up by the "trial balloon" that the Harpers Globe site would be taken "offline" further alienating those who had contributed to that wiki.

This shows that respect and trust are vital within a community and those like Eqal, Inc. who violate the trust of the community are likely to suffer the consequences in this new media landscape.

[Venus Spa]

The locking of LGPedia pages was a major blunder.

This was perceived as an attempt at a corporate take over of a thriving wiki by Eqal, Inc. It drove away many in the community who had previously been active LGPedia editors.

This was followed up by the "trial balloon" that the Harpers Globe site would be taken "offline" further alienating those who had contributed to that wiki.

This shows that respect and trust are vital within a community and those like Eqal, Inc. who violate the trust of the community are likely to suffer the consequences in this new media landscape.

I guess the question there is how will it affect Eqal and how has it affected them thus far?

[modelmotion]

A wiki is one of those things that makes a web site "sticky". It keeps people around and in the process helps build a community.

Remember, one of the major things that led to a community forming on the old LG15 site was the lack of videos. People would hang around for a day or more waiting on a new video. The things they did while waiting were probably as important, if not much more so, than the videos them self in terms of building a community. A fan created wiki gave the community a sense of empowerment. The "c" had very little to do with the wiki other than installing the software. It was always community run and community created. Now when you walk in and push your weight around as Eqal, Inc. did it not only reverses that process but it forces the community to ask if they can trust you ever again.

If Eqal, Inc wants to promote itself as a "community builder" it needs that community to believe that its contribution will be respected. We have all been burned by sites before so perhaps it should have been no surprise. However Eqal, Inc. promoted itself as being different. They were "just like us". Clearly now they have shown their colors and as they go on to attempt to build new communities they will have to establish trust from the ground up because those who have been around a while know exactly what they can expect out of Eqal, Inc. They had the most precious thing in the World (our trust) and they trashed it. That will have consequences at least to the degree Eqal's future is related to its ability to build online communities via the Umbrella software platform.

[curiousgeorge]

EQAL did many dumb things, but hopefully the new guard is paying attention to these blunders and will learn from them. As bad as a lot of the on-screen decisions were, the way they treated their phans was the biggest issue. The wiki was one example, but there are too many others to even list. The trashed a thriving online community with a total disregard for the wants, desires, and (most of all) intelligence of said community. I doubt they will ever see anything close to what they had as to when LG15 was at it's peak. Before they destroyed it.

Total lack of respect...